A podcast for people hoping to live a simpler, more fulfilled life - and want to hear the wisdom others gained after facing life's challenges.

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New Episodes

  • Jonathan Scott-Lee

    This is a special edition of Desperately Seeking Wisdom.

    Just after we completed the third season a few months ago, Craig began talking to Jonathan Scott-Lee. In 2023, Jonathan's daughter, Caitlyn, took her own life at the exclusive Wycombe Abbey School. Her tragic death was covered widely in the media and forced him to confront some hard questions about why Caitlyn did what she did. 

    As a regular listener to the series, Jonathan wondered if others might like to hear about what he went through and learned; in this episode, you'll hear that Jonathan is brave, thoughtful, and challenging in explaining how his neurodiversity affected him coming to terms with what happened to him and his family.

    If you've been affected by discussions of suicide, you can find help at the Samaritans website: www.samaritans.org

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  • Baroness Tanni Grey-Thompson

    Baroness Tanni-Grey Thompson is one of Britain’s most successful athletes, having won 16 Paralympic medals, including 11 golds.Since retiring, she’s transferred her drive to a different arena, the House of Lords.


    In part one of our wide-ranging conversation, we discuss where her positive attitude comes from and explore how she’s achieved such remarkable success throughout her life. We discuss how she has learnt not to react to the steady stream of prejudice she faces and she also refers to the action movie Under Siege, a first for the podcast...!

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  • Sir Trevor McDonald

    Sir Trevor McDonald is one of our country’s most celebrated journalists and news presenters.

    He rose from a poor childhood in Trinidad, to cover the biggest stories of our times - and become one of the most famous people in Britain while he was at it. It’s a unique story and in part one of our conversation we talk to Sir Trevor about what his childhood taught him and how an aspirational family environment prepared him for an extraordinary career.

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Meet your Host

During a successful career that has included editing the BBC's flagship news programmes and six years as the Director of Politics and Communications at No10 Downing St, Craig began to wonder if he was going about life in the right way. He thought he'd followed all the rules, but life felt more of a grind than a gift.

Craig realised millions of people felt the same way - but didn't feel able to talk openly about it. So he decided to read all he could on wisdom. Some of it was snake oil, some of it was revelatory. He wanted to pass on a lot of what he'd discovered - and came up with the idea for Desperately Seeking Wisdom, a podcast about people who have faced major challenges in life and learned some incredible lessons that could benefit everyone.